Funeral For A Friend drummer Ryan Richards has announced that he has left the band. He will be replaced by former Rise To Remain drummer Pat Lundy, who will make his debut with the band at the Slam Dunk Festival this weekend.

Speaking to NME, Richards said: “After ten wonderful, enriching, emotional and fascinating years being a part of Funeral For A Friend, I’ve decided to hang up my drum sticks. I’ve always put music first in my life but the time has come now for my family to take the top spot, after patiently waiting and supporting me for the last ten years and more. I’m stoked to have my good friend Pat Lundy step into my vacant drum stool. There’s not a better drummer than Pat for the job”.

Singer Matthew Davies-Kreye added: “We give Ryan our full support and wish him the best in his future endeavours. Now, before you all start running around on the internet ringing the death bells for our band we just wanted to say that we’re extremely excited to announce that Pat Lundy will filling the drummer’s seat and will be kicking asses and taking names from here on in”.

The band are currently working on their next album, the follow-up to last year’s ‘Welcome Home Armageddon’. You can listen to the playlist Ryan Richards put together for us ahead of the release of that record here.

In a blog post published at the weekend, Black Sabbath bassist Geezer Butler said that he was “sad to see the [latest] Sabbath reunion becoming a bit of a soap opera on the internet”, so I’m sure he’ll be glad to see that drummer Bill Ward has issued another statement on the matter. Though it is in response to other things Butler said in his blog post, so I’m not sure he can really complain.

As previously reported, Ward claims that he is unable to take part in Sabbath’s current reunion (despite having been part of its announcement back in November) due to having been given at “unsignable contract”. Last week Ward issued a statement announcing that all negotiations for him to be involved had now collapsed and that he would definitely not be taking part, despite very much wanting to play live again with his former bandmates, particularly at last weekend’s hometown show in Birmingham.

But Butler wrote: “To our surprise, Bill issued a statement on his site [in February] saying he’d been offered an unsignable contract. He hadn’t told any one of us he was having contractual problems, and frankly those things are worked out between our representatives, and never between the four of us, let alone in public”.

He also claimed that Ward had asked for “an amount [to play the Download festival] that was so unrealistic that it seemed to have been a joke”, and complained that after the band announced the Birmingham show, which they would use to raise money for the Help For Heroes charity, “Bill put out a further statement saying he’d been ready to play the Birmingham show, but he was expected to have to do it ‘for free’ – well, I think that’s basically how you raise money from gigs for charity – you play them ‘for free’”.

He concluded: “All I am saying is that there are two sides to everything”.

And thus proving that rule, Ward issued a further statement via his Facebook page yesterday, responding to the various points raised by Butler. In it he said that he “had indeed notified Ozzy, Tony and Geezer, well before my first public statement, that I was having contractual difficulties”.

He continued: “I came out into a public forum to be accountable to the fans primarily, and to say at a public level there’s a problem. The band members stopped talking and corresponding with me some time ago, with the exception of a nice letter from Tony on my birthday. Prior to that, Geezer and I were corresponding, but that stopped abruptly in late February after I emailed a specific question to him”.

He also said that his proposed Download fee “was not an extravagant amount” and that during negotiations it had not been the fee for this show that had been a problem but rather “there were other parts of the offer that were unsatisfactory”.

Meanwhile, on the subject of the Birmingham show, he pointed out that “in my statement of 15 May, I clearly stated I would play Birmingham for free”.

Ward finished by saying that he would “confront any untruths about me, and any fault finding missions aimed at me that come to my attention”, so you can no doubt expect to hear more on this subject in the near future.

Read Geezer Butler’s blog post here.

And Bill Ward’s Facebook post here.

Black Sabbath issued a short response late last week to the latest statement from the band’s original drummer Bill Ward, who, as much previously reported, is not now taking part in the metal band’s latest reunion because, he says, he wasn’t offered favourable terms to participate.

As previously reported, it was originally announced that all four founder members of Black Sabbath would reunite in 2012, to perform and record a new album, the first new long player involving all four original members in 33 years. Those plans were set to go ahead, albeit with live dates stripped back, even once it became apparent guitarist Tony Iommi was battling cancer. But then, pretty late in the day, Ward withdrew from the reunion, saying he was being treated unfairly in contract negotiations.

As the first reunion show – an intimate gig (by Black Sabbath’s standards) at the Birmingham Academy – approached, Ward said in a statement last week: “I am sincerely passionate in my desire to play with the band, and I’m very, very sorry that it’s fallen to this … I have had to stand up for myself and in doing so realise my actions indirectly, although unintentionally, are upsetting and hurting a lot of you. I know in my heart I couldn’t have done these concerts by agreeing the terms suggested. I made a solemn vow after the last European and Ozzfest concerts that I would never again enter into what was, in my opinion, a totally unsatisfactory contract. I have to stand for something, and as painful as it is, I’m oing it”.

Responding to that latest statement, the rest of the band – ie Ozzy Osbourne, Iommi and Geezer Butler – said in a statement: “We have decided not to make any detailed comment on Bill’s latest statement. There are two sides to every story. We have been working hard at rehearsals making excellent progress after Tony’s treatments and we have engaged a substitute drummer for the forthcoming shows”.

Tommy Clufetos, drummer in Osbourne’s band, filled in at the homecoming reunion show in Birmingham this weekend, after which Butler said: “Thank you, thank you, thank you Birmingham. Best fans ever – you brought out the best in us. It was a privilege playing for you tonight. Tony was a hero – you were the best medicine he has had. Proud to be a Brummie”.

Although the show seemingly “brought out the best in us”, Thrash Hits has noted that photos on the nostalgia heavy home page of the Black Sabbath website have been cropped or positioned so to remove Ward, and in doing so presenting the original line up as trio, which seems rather petty.

Black Sabbath drummer Bill Ward has said in a lengthy statement published on his website that he will definitely not be joining his Black Sabbath bandmates for their upcoming reunion shows.

As previously reported, plans for the original line-up to record and perform together seemed on track after all four members confirmed their involvement in the latest reunion in November last year. However, in February Ward released a statement saying: “At this time I would love nothing more than to be able to proceed with the Black Sabbath album and tour. However, I am unable to continue unless a ‘signable’ contract is drawn up; a contract that reflects some dignity and respect towards me as an original member of the band … Several days ago, after nearly a year of trying to negotiate, another ‘unsignable’ contract was handed to me”.

Presumably this was an attempt to force the hand of Black Sabbath’s management, but sadly it failed because the next day the rest of the band published a statement of their own, saying: “We were saddened to hear yesterday via Facebook that Bill declined publicly to participate in our current Black Sabbath plans. We have no choice but to continue recording without him although our door is always open”.

With that door remaining open, Ward seemingly attempted to forge on with negotiations. And in the statement published yesterday he said he tried even harder to reach a resolution after a Birmingham show was announced, because he didn’t want to miss out on playing to a hometown crowd. However, all hopes for having the full original line-up on stage for their three planned shows this year (the rest of the tour already having been switched to an Ozzy Osbourne solo outing) have now collapsed.

Ward wrote: “I am sincerely passionate in my desire to play with the band, and I’m very, very sorry that it’s fallen to this … I have had to stand up for myself and in doing so realise my actions indirectly, although unintentionally, are upsetting and hurting a lot of you. I know in my heart I couldn’t have done these concerts by agreeing the terms suggested. I made a solemn vow after the last European and Ozzfest concerts that I would never again enter into what was, in my opinion, a totally unsatisfactory contract. I have to stand for something, and as painful as it is, I’m doing it”.

He also said: “Although the statement was made that ‘the door is always open’ for me, as explained above, walking through that door is not always as easy as it sounds. There are many complicated issues and unseen and unspoken agendas on hand. I can assure you, my criteria for a ‘signable” contract is based in mindful principles, respectability, and acknowledgement of my history within the band”.

Read the full statement here.

Korn performed with former guitarist Brian ‘Head’ Welch at the weekend for the first time since he departed in the band in 2005. The reunion took place at the Carolina Rebellion festival at Rockingham Speedway in Rockingham, North Carolina.

Welch left the band in 2005 after converting to Christianity, which he claims cured him of various drug addictions. The relationship between Welch and his former bandmates has been tense at time since he quit, but has seemingly become more friendly of late, leading to the collaboration last Saturday.

Speaking to EarplugsRequired.com Welch explained: “It wasn’t planned. I was just going [to Carolina Rebellion] because my daughter loves Chevelle and she likes Evanescene and everything … And then when we got there, we just hung out. Nothing was talked about at all; we just hung out. And then right before Korn’s set, they said, ‘Hey, you wanna jam with us?’ … So I got up and did ‘Blind’ and it was amazing. It was really fun. There was tears. It was a family moment”.

According to Blabbermouth, both Welch and Korn bassist Reginald ‘Fieldy’ Arvizu have said that a full reunion in the future was not out of the question.

Noise rock pairing Run, WALK! have announced the release of their long-awaited debut album, whilst at the same time deciding to split. Alas, they giveth, and they taketh away. The LP, at least, will be released on a limited basis, with Holy Roar having pressed only 200 twelve-inch vinyl copies for issue on 16 Jul.

A statement from the band explains all: “I can’t believe I’m sat here writing this. About three and a half years ago Run, WALK! first come into fruition. We had the common goals of travelling as far as we could, touring as much as possible, playing super loud and having fun”.

It continues: “Sadly as time went on our common goals became harder to maintain. Real life began to take its toll as we grew up, however, as long time best friends and being devoted to playing our music we made it work for a long time but sadly it can’t go on forever”.

The first of the band’s farewell dates falls on 12 May at The Great Escape, with a tour with DZ Deathrays and further festival appearances at Brighton’s NWFA and Cheltenham’s 2000Trees also booked.

In the mean time, listen to fated album track ‘Black Dreams’ here:

Okay, now listen here The Various Members Of Blur, will you all please be quiet until you’ve made a decision about what you’re doing? And you, Damon Albarn, I’m talking to you in particular now, just shut up about all you projects, would you?

As previously reported, Albarn recently told The Guardian that he “hoped” Blur’s upcoming show for the Olympics would be “how we end it”, adding that, due to visuals man Jamie Hewlett thinking he’s been sidelined in the project, Gorillaz also seemed to be done with, at least “until a time comes when that knot has been untied”.

To be fair, I suppose that latter statement does sound a bit like Albarn thinks Gorillaz will make another album again one day, and this week he confirmed that to Metro, saying: “When Jamie and I have worked out our differences, I’m sure we’ll make another record. We’ve been through too much together for it to be that big of a mountain to climb. We’ve just fallen out like mates do sometimes. I’m not the only person to fall out with mates and then make up again – everyone does it”.

As for his comments about bringing Blur to a close with one more single and one last show this summer, he said: “Some days I feel one way and other days I feel the other. If you don’t see something as a career but as an important part of your life, you don’t know how you’re going to feel about it. We want to put on a great performance, but nothing’s been said between us about the beginning or the end”.

Balls. Just make up your mind and stick with it, Albarn. Or at least stop talking about it. OK, I know people are going to ask you about it constantly, but for the time being please just say you don’t know. If it helps, I think you should all knock Blur on the head and stop embarrassing yourselves, but that’s just me.

The Smiths aren’t reforming. This should come as no surprise to you because The Smiths will never reform and everyone should shut up about it. The Smiths, to their credit, are one of the seemingly small number of bands who recognise that reforming a band is nothing more than a commercial exercise that should be sneered at.

Still, yesterday music-news.com ran a story claiming that the band had decided to perform together for the first time since 1987 this autumn, and were currently bashing out the details with “a well-known promoter”. The news quickly spread around social networks, with even Smiths guitarist Johnny Marr getting in on the action on Twitter, writing: “Hey Everybody!! Amazing news! My amp is fixed!”

Over on Facebook he published a slightly longer statement, saying: “Thanks to those with hearts and smarts. I don’t know where this stuff starts. Not from me. I got things to do. The rumour of the Smiths reunion is untrue. It’s not happening”.

Drummer Mike Joyce also commented on the rumours, saying via his radio show on Beatwolf Radio, according to the Daily Mirror: “When I first heard about it I was… to say [I was] surprised and rather shocked was a bit of an understatement. Obviously I had to keep my emotions in check because there’s a lot of people in the office. It’s not happening folks, [or] as far as I know. Now, if it was going to happen without me then, yeah – I don’t know. Avec me [though], then I would have known about it, wouldn’t I?”

As for the possibility of a reunion one day, he continued: “Who knows, in the future [it might happen]. We don’t know, do we, really – cos we can never know. I mean, there’s quite a few bands who have got back together again who people said it would never happen, and they did. Only time will tell”.

Time will tell indeed. Though, now I come to think about it, Johnny Marr did say earlier this year that if the current coalition government stepped down then The Smiths would reform. And the way things are going, the Cameron/Clegg party may well have fallen apart by the Autumn. Oh my God, this is actually happening. The Smiths are definitely getting back together. Definitely. Why else would Johnny Marr be getting his amp fixed?

Cheryl Cole has confirmed that Girls Aloud will reform later this year for some sort of activity around their tenth anniversary. What that activity might be isn’t clear – it could be a new album, it could be a tour, it could be an angry shove in a corridor. Who knows?

Cole told Chris Moyles on Radio 1: “It’s coming up to our tenth birthday in November this year… and we all want to do something to celebrate that”. Asked why they went on hiatus back in 2009, she said: “What happened was it had been seven years of consistently non-stop touring, album after album. As women we needed this space to grow”.

Editors have parted ways with guitarist Chris Urbanowicz, the band announced in a statement published on their official website earlier this week.

The statement said that the “amicable” decision was “entirely based upon future musical direction” adding that it was “a massively painful decision for all of us to make”.

The rest of the band are continuing to work on their fourth album with producer Flood.

Courtney Love briefly reunited with the mid-90s line-up of Hole for two songs on Friday night, according to the NME.

Love’s former bandmates Melissa Auf der Maur and Eric Erlandson were playing with one time Hole drummer Patty Schemel at a party to launch a new documentary film about the career and life of the latter. Seemingly at one point Auf Der Maur told the crowd: “Is there a lady in the house who wants to join us for a song? We’re waiting because apparently there’s a Miss World in the house”.

Love then emerged, and played 1994 Hole track ‘Miss World’, and then a cover of Wipers track ‘Over The Edge’, telling the crowd: “I know, it’s a nice moment”.

There has been some acrimony between Love and her various former Hole bandmates over the years, of course, and she came under some criticism for reforming the band with a totally new line-up – bar herself – in 2010. But there seemed to be some happiness on stage on Friday, which is nice. Actually, this is probably how classic line-up reunions should happen – two impromptu songs at an intimate party. Let’s hope the acrimonies weren’t properly overcome later that night, we wouldn’t want a full on 90s Hole reunion, would we?

Though Love did seem to be in a reconciliatory mood last week. After accusing Dave Grohl of making the moves on her daughter Frances Bean, something both Grohl and Love Junior strongly denied on Twitter, the Hole lady sent out a new tweet saying: “Bean, sorry I believed the gossip. Mommy loves you”.

While one time Guns N Roses bassist Duff McKagan has been saying how much he is looking forward to his former band being inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame, hoping that the induction ceremony could go off without a hitch, and fantasising that it might result in a happy on stage reunion for the band’s original line-up, Axl Rose has issued a public statement saying he won’t attend the induction event, and doesn’t want to be inducted in absence either.

Writing in his ESPN column, McKagan said earlier this week: “We are not a band any more, and haven’t been for some time. We are all still alive and well, but there has been some muddy water that has gone underneath the bridge. But water, muddy or otherwise, does indeed flow past and forever away, and I have nothing but the best of memories and highest level of love and admiration and feelings of brotherhood with all of those dudes. Seriously”.

He continued, somewhat optimistically: “I, too, now hope that we can just play a couple of songs there, and just sort of throw the microphone down on the stage and walk off. The rock n roll world would be set ablaze once again and we could make a bunch of fans happy and sated to some degree”. Though he noted that tensions still existed between his former bandmates, so perhaps the best he could hope for was the night going off “without a hitch”.

Well, we know for certain Rose won’t be having any run-ins with his former bandmates, because he won’t be there. In a long open letter published last night, the band’s frontman wrote: “When the nominations for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame were first announced, I had mixed emotions, but, in an effort to be positive, wanting to make the most of things for the fans and with their enthusiasm, I was honoured, excited and hoped that somehow this would be a good thing”.

“Of course I realised as things stood, if Guns N Roses were to be inducted, it’d be somewhat of a complicated or awkward situation. Since then we’ve listened to fans, talked with members of the board of the Hall Of Fame, communicated with and read various public comments and jabs from former members of Guns N Roses, had discussions with the president of the Hall Of Fame, read various press (some legit, some contrived) and read other artists’ comments weighing in publicly on Guns and the Hall with their thoughts”.

“Under the circumstances, I feel we’ve been polite, courteous, and open to an amicable solution in our efforts to work something out. Taking into consideration the history of Guns N Roses, those who plan to attend along with those the Hall for reasons of their own, have chosen to include in ‘our’ induction (that, for the record, are decisions I don’t agree with, support or feel the Hall has any right to make), and how (albeit no easy task) those involved with the Hall have handled things… no offense meant to anyone but the Hall Of Fame induction ceremony doesn’t appear to be somewhere I’m actually wanted or respected”.

“For the record, I would not begrudge anyone from Guns their accomplishments or recognition for such. Neither I or anyone in my camp has made any requests or demands of the Hall Of Fame. It’s their show not mine. That said, I won’t be attending the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction 2012 ceremony and I respectfully decline my induction as a member of Guns N Roses to the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. I strongly request that I not be inducted in absentia and please know that no one is authorized nor may anyone be permitted to accept any induction for me or speak on my behalf. Neither former members, label representatives nor the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame should imply whether directly, indirectly or by omission that I am included in any purported induction of Guns N Roses”.

So there you have it. Read McKagan’s full column here, and Roses’ full letter here.

Kerry Katona has given her blessing to Atomic Kitten’s apparent decision to reunite with her one-time replacement Jenny Frost as part of the line-up instead of her. Or not, I’m not really sure. In her latest column for OK magazine Katona acknowledged that the Frost-featuring version of the girl group had been more successful than the original version that included her, but said that she “helped put them on the map” and would “love to get on stage with them”.

The column was seemingly written in response to claims that Frost had refused to be part of the reunited group if Katona was also involved. In it, Katona writes: “With Atomic Kitten in the pipeline, I saw Jenny Frost saying she’s refusing to join the band if I’m in it. The thing is, I was the founding member of the band – I remember when I was the only member and for two months I was on my own during auditions when we first chose Liz McLarnon and Heidi Range, then when Heidi left we all chose Natasha Hamilton. When I left, the band went on to become bigger and better and I watched them with great pride”.

She continued: “I’m not going to get into a slanging match over the Kittens, but Jenny got the opportunity of a lifetime when she took over from me. They were number one when she joined the band but it was my voice on the record. I’m proud of being a part of Atomic Kitten, they helped me and I helped put them on the map. So if the opportunity arose I’d love to get on stage with them – I’d be mad not to!”

Jack White has said he still has no idea why The White Stripes split last year, because his former bandmate Meg White remains tight-lipped about her decision to cease performing in 2007.

White told WENN: “There came a point where I said: ‘If we’re not doing this, we need to put an end to it right now’. And that’s what she wanted to do. I don’t know what her reasons are. Having a conversation with Meg, you don’t really get any answers. I’m lucky that girl ever got on stage, so I’ll take what I can get. Meg completely controlled the White Stripes. She’s the most stubborn person I’ve ever met, and you don’t even get to know the reasons”.

He added: “I’d make a White Stripes record right now. I’d be in the White Stripes for the rest of my life. That band is the most challenging, important, fulfilling thing to ever to happen to me. I wish it was still here. It’s something I really, really miss”.

The Mystery Jets announced last week that bassist Kai Fish has left the band. He will be replaced by Pete Cochrane, who is also joined by new pedal steel player Matt Parks.

Commenting on Fish’s departure, guitarist Willima Rees wrote on the band’s website: “Since the beginning of the year Kai has decided to go separate ways from the band, focusing his time and energy on raising his beautiful baby girl Odessa and writing music for solo and collaborative projects. The departure has been an emotional one for all of us involved but also a very amicable one, Brother Fish will always be a best of friend and a Mystery Jet”.

The band are currently part way through a UK tour and will release new album ‘Radlands’ on 30 Apr.

It is possible that between the ages of twelve and sixteen I was a fan of the band Ugly Kid Joe. It’s even possible that I insisted to school friends that their third and final album, ‘Motel California’, was brilliant. Who can say if any of this actually happened, it was such a long time ago. Thankfully, even back then, I made no excuses for their second album, ‘Menace To Sobriety’.

Anyway, Ugly Kid Joe have reformed, which isn’t the best news ever. Particularly as I’ve just listened to the first song to emerge from a new six track EP due for release possibly as soon as later this month. A European tour is coming this way in June too, and the band will perform at this year’s Download festival.

Speaking to NY Rock Music Examiner, drummer Shannon Larkin said: “We are really stoked at how it [the EP] came out – pure Ugly Kid Joe, dude! We have no label, agent, or management, and did the record by ourselves without a real plan other than getting together in a room again after all these years and jamming out!”

See if you’re “stoked about how it came out” by listening to this low quality rip of ‘Love Ain’t True’ here:

Despite past indications from various members of the band that new Blur projects or recordings may occur at some point, Damon Albarn has now told The Guardian one last single release and a big gig for the Olympics will be it for the Britpop outfit.

Well, he said he “hoped” that would be it for his band, which provides a get out, I suppose. Cynics might wonder if the “final show ever” promise is designed to boost interest in the Olympics-closing Hyde Park show, featuring Blur, New Order and The Specials, which for many is one of a number of lacklustre line-ups provided by Britain’s festival promoters this year.

Commenting on their upcoming Olympics show Albarn told the paper: “I’ll give it 100%, like I did last time [we played Hyde Park]. And that’s it. And I hope that’s the truth: that that’s how we end it”.

While on the new single, ‘Under The Westway’ (which some might argue is in itself solid proof of why it’s definitely time for Blur to stop), he added: “We recorded it live. One take. It’s the first Blur song where it’s been one take, because previously I never finished the lyrics before we recorded. This time, I’d done that, so we were actually able to perform it. Which is quite nice, because I don’t really see any more recordings after this. So it’s nice to have finally done one song where we did it properly”.

And just in case you think that means Albarn will have more time to spend on Gorillaz, think again, because that project is at its end too. Well, it’s definitely on hiatus, seemingly because the cartoon band’s visuals man Jamie Hewlett has tired of the project, reckoning his input has become secondary to the music. Asked by The Guardian about the future of his other big project, Albarn continued: “Jamie [reckons it's over], which is fair enough. I think we were at cross purposes somewhat on that last record, which is a shame. So until a time comes when that knot has been untied…”

The King Blues announced earlier this week that they are to split after the release of one final album, ‘Long Live The Struggle’.

In a statement, the band said: “We simply feel we have taken things as far as they can go and it would be unfair on you if we were to go through the motions like so many other artists do. We all believe strongly in what The King Blues stands for”.

‘Long Live The Struggle’ is currently scheduled for release in early July.

Limp Bizkit are back with their original line-up and a new deal with Cash Money Records. For now, at least. According to TMZ, frontman Fred Durst is unhappy with all the partying drummer John Otto and DJ Lethal have been doing of late and is threatening to kick them out of the band.

Former House Of Pain member DJ Lethal apparently told TMZ: “We’ve worked together the last four years to bring Limp Bizkit back to where it is today … and to just be thrown out on the street after the band gets a new deal and a new chance at life isn’t cool. You can’t push away the people who helped you get there. The fans should know that if two fifths of the original band are not playing at the concerts, it won’t be truthful to them”.

Viva Brother have split up. News that perhaps won’t surprise or upset many (or any) of you, though it is an interesting case study of hype destroying a band before they really had a chance to develop.

The band formed in 2010, having previously been through a number of other incarnations, and quickly signed to Geffen. They made the cover of the NME in January 2011 as a number of bands tipped for success that year. Dubbing their sound ‘gritpop’, they quickly became known for frontman Lee Newell’s oft overblown statements – most famously “Anyone who doesn’t want to see the future of rock n roll should leave now” at a poorly attended gig in North London.

Their popularity was way off their bravado though, and a year after gracing the cover of the NME, they found themselves nominated for Worst Band at the magazine’s awards (something they referenced when they announced their split).

In a brief statement issued on Sunday via Twitter (initially taken as an April Fools gag by some but later confirmed), the band bowed out, saying: “Thank you to everyone that has ever supported us or believed. It has been an unbelievable journey. This is us signing off. Goodbye. We’ll leave you with this last song. We recorded it a couple of months ago. And as for NME. Shame on you”.

That final song, should you wish to hear it, is here: